Describing seizure types
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Last updated 29 Jul 2009, review date due 29 Jul 2010
When making a diagnosis of epilepsy, the doctor may use one of the following terms: idiopathic, cryptogenic or symptomatic. Idiopathic means that there is no apparent cause.
Cryptogenic means that doctors believe there is likely to be a cause but they are unable to find it.
Symptomatic means that a cause has been found.
Seizures can also be described by which part or parts of the brain the epileptic activity starts in. The three groups are: partial (also called focal), secondary generalised, and generalised.
- Partial seizures involve epileptic activity in just a part of the brain. Partial seizures can be divided into simple partial and complex partial.
- In a simple partial seizure the person is fully conscious. They remain fully aware of their surroundings, despite seizure activity
- In a complex partial seizure a person partly loses consciousness and they are not aware of what they are doing. Because of this, they may not remember the seizure afterwards, or their memory of it will be unclear.
- Generalised seizures involve epileptic activity in both halves of the brain. The person loses consciousness during the seizure.
- Sometimes, the epileptic activity that starts as a partial seizure can spread to the rest of the brain. When this happens, the seizure is known as secondary generalised.
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Hi
Thanks for your comment. I’m sorry that things are so confusing for you just now. I can’t say whether these ‘strange feelings’ are related to epilepsy, but it is possible they are.
When you had your first seizure 15 months ago, it’s likely you weren’t given any medication because the doctors didn’t know at that time whether it was a one off event, or whether you were likely to have more. Now that you have had more feelings that could be related to epilepsy, it’s important that you are seen by an epilepsy specialist. It’s likely that the doctors you saw in hospital weren’t epilepsy specialist. So, they will have just monitored you to make sure you were safe and then sent you home.
Although you haven’t been able to make an appointment directly with your specialist, it may be that your GP could ask for an urgent referral. It’s certainly worth speaking to them about this. There may also be an epilepsy specialist nurse in your area, who could advise you. If you let us know where you live, we’ll do our best to find one for you.
In the meantime, you might like to look at the triggers information on our website, to make sure you are as safe as possible until you get more specialist advice.
I hope you are seen and diagnosed quickly.
Kathy
Advice and Information Team
hello im at a very confusing point right now....I had a seizure about 15months ago..i lost conciousness and dont really remember much about it....i was under quite a bit of stress at the time and after all the tests coming back as normal put it down to the overload of stress.. i wasnt given any medication and was cleared to drive again after 8months...all has been fine since and i have made alot of changes all for the better..my ife has been more settled in the last 6months than for years before..i have just returned from a holiday with my children and felt tired but relaxed and happy..but on the evening of my return home had a 'strange feeling' that i was able to tell my bf about before ending up on the floor briefly...i put this down to tiredness and wnt to bed..my bf then awoke in the early hours to find me having a massive seizure and once the 'fitting' had finished i was 'out cold' for nearly an hour so he phoned the ambulance..the first i recall of this was on route to hospital where i was confused to say the least..i had another strange feeling that i was able to tell the paramedic but only had afew twitches (unable to control) but stayed concious???..this happened again in the hospital..but after blood being taken an being monitored i was sent home. this has happened 3 more times that im aware of the most recent being about 2 hours ago..i also experienced a strange smell and upset my 8yr old daughter by accusing her of 'stinking' and making her shower and clean her teeth over and over???..sincethis has all happened i feel very confused and 'sketchy' im scared and dont feel safe!! i have phoned the specialist and have been told to wait for an appointment..this is very frutrating as i am a very independant person and dont feel like i am in control of my own body..any advice on how i can 'sort my head/self out' would be much appreciated.
hi my name is jenny i had a fit on 10.7.10 i was fine leaving my house although my husband said i was acting abit strange as i havent had a fit for 11years he did not know what the signs were after getting on the bus to my mums i have no memory when i came to i was at my mums with mum dad and husband all lookin very worried however before the event i had lost my job and been under a great deal of family pressures i hope this helps
I would like to know the feelings people have just before a seizure and after it. Could you remember? What are they, bad feelings (hate, fear, weakness, etc) or good ones (love, etc)? How about the foam near the mouth, is it anytime present?
Thank you.
Helllo Mark,
My name is Joanne. Iam 25 years old and have had epilepsy for about 20 years now. I totally understand about not being able to drive. Everytime i get close enough to being clear for a year i have a seizure. I have had more than a few set backs lately. I have just been reading up on driving and epilepsy and although you have to wait the exact year, you do get the benefits of having insurance companies designed for epilepsy and you can get a lot of help. Its frustrating because i know i am capable of doing a lot of things but unfortunately i have a very over caring family who wish to wrap me in cotton wool. I believe that you will make it and when you do you can hold your head up high. Its hard now, i joke that i am banned and no one asks anymore questions instead of having to keep explaining. As long as you keep focused on your goal and your mind active then i believe that is the answer. It still doesn't help with the annoyance but it is all a stepping stone in the world of epilepsy.
my son is twenty years old and last year he had one siezure he was sent for a eeg and it came back that he had epilepsy he was put on medication but im worried incase he had been wrongly diagnosed as luckely he has had no further fits and although he ws put on medication he went from july to december without medication nd he was fit free can thse tets be wrong
hi my 48 husband had a stroke about 6 years ago,since then he has had quite a few t.i.a,but this past 5 months he has quite a few things happen to him the first being the weakness on is left side,a lot of really bad headachs ,and a seizure,when he had this l have never seen anybody have one and its was really frighting to see this,his full body went ridget and i tride to putting his arms and legs down ,l dident know l was making things worse,l know now not to do this,he went back into the hospital,and when he was discharged the letter said that he had infraction with in the left frontal lobe,this l dident know what it was untill l looked it up on my computer,know doctor has told me that my husband has had a seizure,and when l went on to this sight l was amassed buy all the letters,and the feed back,thanks for all your letters, now l know what a seizure is and what to look out for,thanks everybody
Hello Mark
I expect you been given many different medicines to try. I was told there were about 14 different ones and the same one may not suit another. Have you found a local support group where there will be others to talk to?
I was lucky I guess compared to you, I developed epilepy in later life after a brain haemorrhage which I thought was bad enough.
Best wishes
hi jane noted your comment on epilepsy site and felt my simptoms were similar to your.s and wonderd if you have had any responses to your question as i belive my simptoms are called absence seizures . any feed back would be good .regards cheryl
when i had my first sezuire i was nine and mine was all down to a cist i had on my brain. this is what caused my epilepsy. i have generalised sezuires and it is horrible knowing that it could happen at any time. since my first sezuire i had neuro sergery within 6 months and ever since i have had epilepsy. i am now 17 and not able to do as much as my friends.
i am about to sit my a levels and i am faced with the same worries about your exam. Also suffering from panic attacks i have to be extra carefull, so i would recommened that you do what i did at G.C.S.E, go and speak to your doctor and as for a tablet that allows you to relax in your exams. it is mainly persciped for people with these two problems but they wil offer it to you.
hi, my son was diagnosed with epilepsy almost a year ago now.He is 21 yrs old and has had to send his driving licence back. He is still having seizures which look like he is day dreaming. They can last just a few minutes and during this time when you are talking to him, he just says that he cant hear us, although he knows we are talkin to him. He has just went almost 6 weeks without a seizure, and just had one last night. As you can imagine he is gutted, as he gets really down because he thinks every seizure wil be his last, but this doesnt seem to be the case. He is taking Keppra and lamotrogine, and although his seizures havent stopped there has been an improvement. Doc says next step could be surgery, but he is not too keen as he is worried about the procedure involved. Would like to hear from anyone experiencing similar circumstances.
Hello my name is mark and I have been living with epilepsy
from a few monthes old I developed a high temperature
which led to a convulsive fit reply if you please.
I am a person who has been living with epilepsy all my life I
would like to talk to someone else out there in the same
position as me. I am not able to drive and need my mum dad or brother to drive me about everywhere I would like to talk
to someone else out there who is living in the seem situation.
I am 15 years old & have been epileptic for about a year now.
At first, my epilepsiy scared me because I hated having fits. I then got used to it.
Now, recentley I have been having really bad ones. I have had a fit everyday for about a month.
Last week, my mum picked me up from school & she started driving home (15 mins drive.) While I was in the car; I started having a really bad fit. It was that bad & violent the door actually opended because of my head banging against the door so violentley.
I was basically hanging out of the car (with my seatbelt on) having a fit.
My mum pulled over, pulled me back in & drove me straight to the hospital.
When we got to the hospital I was still having my fit.
A kind man helped her carry me into the hospital, & while they were carrying me I was still having a fit.
I don't remember anything else after that, & I woke up to find my mum & 4 brothers & sister around the hosital bed.
A few hours later I was allowed home. I now have a really bad head & I keep getting headaches.
I don't even know what started my fit off.
My fit lasted for 20 mins. It was the longest I have EVER had a fit.
I wanted to know, is it okay for my fit to be that long?
Also, my mum said while I was having a fit the veins in my neck swelled up & I stopped breathing. Is that normal?
I need all the help I can get, my fits are really stressing me out.
I am in year 10 & have exams soon & I know the exams will stress me out, & things that stress me out make me have fits.
Help me please?:(
It has something to do with the enzymes in milk that help rebuild and repair. They say, if you ever cut off your finger to put it in a glass of milk to preserve it until you can get to the emergency room. Besides that, I'm a big believer in listening to your body - it tends to tell us what we need!
Hello :)
Right i've had Epilepsy since the age of 16 (I'm nearly 21 now) I've never been on My own when i've had a Fit but i now live on My own & i had a Fit last week (The worst one i've ever had, i was alone & i bit My Toungue badly)
I did'nt eat for 4 Days as My Toungue was soooo sore! But now i'm craving Milk! I don't normally like Milk... Any reasons why i'm craving Milk after My Fit?
Hi Ruth
Sorry to hear that this is such a difficult time for you and your husband. I hope his ribs are less painful now.
It’s not unusual to develop epilepsy after any kind of brain injury or surgery. In fact, sometimes surgeons give people anti-epileptic drugs for a while after surgery, just in case they develop epilepsy. Some people don’t develop epilepsy until many years after their surgery.
It’s good that your husband is going to have a full consultation and will have some more tests done. These are some questions you might consider asking his doctors.
If you would like to speak to an adviser about your husband’s epilepsy or treatment, please contact the freephone Epilepsy Helpline (0808 800 5050). Alternatively, if you have any specific questions you could email us at helpline@epilepsy.org.uk
Kathy
Advice and Information Team
My husband is 57 and he had a brain injury over 5 years ago. This resulted in loss of taste & smell as he had surgery to reduce the brain swelling but no other obvious ill effects. In December he started having seizures. He collapsed in a local supermarket the first time & has since had about 5 other episodes, in one case falling on a bollard & fracturing 2 ribs.
He was admitted to hospital for 24 hours after that (I was away with work at the time) & they ruled out stroke & his heart. After the latest episode where a passer by found him in the street & called an ambulance the A&E staff arranged for him to attend a ward the following week & he saw a neuro consultant who has put him on anti seizure medication. This was an unscheduled visit so the consultant is arranging a proper outpatient appointment for him to do 'some tests'.
Are there any questions we should ask at this visit?
Also has anybody had any experience of seizures so many years after the original head injury?
Any advice or information would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi Sorry to hear your daughter and your self is going through this distressing time. My Son who is 7 was born with hypoglocemia and hypoxia lack of oxygen at birth and resulted in seizures he was diagnosed with abscent seizures about 2 years old.. his eyes would flicker he never lost conciousness then it progressed to eye rolling. He is seven now and has autism learning difficulties and epilepsy. Also for the past year it started with a stomache bug.. he goes white as a sheet, looks very ill all of a sudden and then goes to sleep for a few hours this can happen at anytime. One minuit he is fine the next hes gone i have been so worried about him and have had to fight to get tests done which i have had to suggest because they didnt know what was causing it and i had to chase them up and demand for some tests to be done and i am not a doctor and its so frustrating and worrying when the doctors should be doing there job and helping my little boy. Blood sugar came back normal a heart scan came back normal bloods came back normal but these were taken when he had no symptoms but because they have done it they do not want to repeat the tests. The heart specialist said that it could be a vagal nerve disorder but as yet he has not been diagnosed with that but its happening every week now. And more recently my son has been loosing his balance and not walking properly and stopping walking and asking me for my hand to help him walk which he never used to do and he is walking on the sides of his feet too at times he says his foot is stuck and he been getting more confused and distressed I am at my wits end with this neurologist it took her two months for her to speak to me after leaving numerous phone calls with her secretary kept seeing her different registras who dont know my son and was even told by one that he hast got epilepsy! and i feel like you... just so frustrated I am going to ask to see a different neurologist who may have some answers and has the time and who is actually interested in helping him he has suffered enough. So I have asked for an MRI also to look at his vision and because he is bruising easliy she said we need to do a blood test she actually came up with something!!! It just never feels like they are doing enough to help you would of thought they would test for everything they could think of oh no ive had to fight to get anything done! I dont understand why and i am seeing my little boy get worse and now its his walking and loosing balance and the stress this is causing him if you are not satisfied keep at them asked to be referred to another hospital thats what im going to do if i have any news on whats causing this i will let you know. My sisters girl has cerebal palsy and she looses the use of her left side could be worth investigating too and she has alternating hymoplegia which is very rare. The eyes flickering could be absent siezures as with my sons... keep at them darling and chin up I know its so hard to see them suffer but we have to be strong for them i pray you get the help you need x Lisa
I thought I'd write to give anyone who's interested the results of the MRI and EEG that I had done.
I have only now been given the results of both tests which were done over 9 weeks ago.
I have been unable to return to work during this time.
The neurologist phoned me as I got cross with her secretary as to the length of time it was taking to get my results ( the secretary lied and told me they were in the post 2 weeks later still nothing, then she admitted they were still with the Dr )
So I am STILL waiting for the written detailed results. But at least the neurologist called and told me my results were normal.
I am still feeling 'spaced out' but I believe this could be due to stress due to the long wait.
So I've actyally been off work waiting for an MRI, EEG results etc. almost 4 mths.
I have epilepsy and have no understanding of what it is like to have it can you please tell me what i need to no as i do not no what type of seizures i am having and half the time i do not no where i am and who is around me.
Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I am a 23 year old female. At the age of 10, I started having funny turns, or how I referred to them as "feelings". These were a feeling of deja vu and feeling strange and I felt very cold all over my body. Whilst I was having these feelings, I was able to describe how I was feeling to my parents and answer questions. They would last anywhere between 30 seconds and 2 minutes. Immediately, the cold would go and I would be left with a feeling of nausea, headaches and immense tiredness (often needing to sleep afterwards). The doctors diagnosed me with a form of petit mal epilepsy and I was heavily medicated on sodium valporate for a number of years, which did not help my feelings, only increasing them. On my worst days I would suffer from 20 + of these feelings. I stopped my medication after a few years when we realised it was not helping. A specialist neurologist did not agree with my GP's diagnosis and instead diagnosed me with vasovagal attacks. They continued until the age of 15, when I began menstruating.
I thought that my feelings were then over until the age of 22, when they began again.
The feelings have not occurred as regularly as when I was younger but coincide with the onset of my period. Several days before, I will have a 'feeling' daily and will then stop once my period has started.
I am confused as to whether I suffer from epilepsy after all, having read some of the previous posts which sounds scarily similar to mine. My question is whether epilepsy can go away and return several years later? Many thanks, Helen Kingsley
Is anyone able to suggest
This web site is fab, all of the comments have helped me too. My 7 year old daughter keeps having "episodes" she feels sick, shakes slightly, foams at the mouth and can't speak to us, these only last for a few minutes but I am concerned about them afterwards she is absolutely fine. Does anyone have any ideas and do you think she has some sort of epilepsy?
Was really sorry to hear about the difficulties you are experiencing. On the issue of the school threatening to not allowing you to attend - they are not allowed to do this by law. It is their responsibility to provide a save enviroment for you to learn in. If they continue to take this tack contact with someone from the Disabilty Act (sorry don't know their official title) should be able to varify this for you. Epilepsy Action I'm sure will be able to give you more accurate information. Good luck and don't give up; an education is not something to be given up lightly.
Hi, Im 17 years old, and last november I started having what can be described as "collapse episodes" or "fainting episodes" people have told me that these last for between 10 minutes to 1 hour 30 minutes whereby im not conscious, sometimes i lose control of my bladder and sometimes i stop breathing or my heart stops beating.
these have been happening for almost 11 months now, and i have had EEG's ECG'S MRI'S CT Scans etc etc
but unfortunately no such cause has been found,
The School I attend is now threatening to remove me completely for "my own safety" which means I dont get my GCSE'S at all.
If anyone can offer any advice at all,
please get in touch.
Hi I had felt quite dizzy and had some very very short memory loss like you and some tiredness too. I had a fall at work, although a colleague seems to think I tripped and then regained my balance, although it is all very unclear to me personally. My GP gave me some time off and some pills for my dizzyness. I thought it was a virus I had picked up from my children. Then several months later after a very long and active day I blackout on the stairs of my house. My wife found me getting up slowly. I had hurt my thigh muscle, knee and badly bruised my toes, although I had no recollection of falling down. I got myself to bed as I started shaking as shock set in. After about five minutes my body stopped shaking and I was fine, except for the pain from injuring my leg. I went through my medical insurance and work's doctor, to be refered and had a clear MRI, cardiac echo, ECG resting and 24 hour tape. My EEG was abnormal showing rather subtle independant bi-termporal slow and sharp wave sources from both temporal regions, which was emphasised on my sleep deprived EEG, also labelled abnormal. As no one has witnessed my last proper blackout, the Neurologist cannot diagnose me, as apparently to diagnose epilepsy you need to take the test results and witness accounts of symptoms to do so.
So I am awaiting to hear from the DVLA, if I have another blackout then the Neurologist wants to put me on medication for epiliepsy, but for now I am in limbo! So am I in the clear or not? The neurologist said my results were abnormal BUT could not confirm that I had epilepsy. They say there is obviously something going on, but could not say what! So am I ok or not - I think I may have to refer myself to Neuro centre which I have heard may be able to probe further, thanks J
Hi! I am a 30 year old woman and over the past couple of years have been having infrequent (once every few weeks or so) 'dizzy spells' which I've seen my GP about a couple of times but never got to the bottom of. As I am vegetarian my first thought was anaemia but my iron is fine. My second thought was diabetes as we have it in my family, but all those blood tests came out fine too.
Just recently I had a 'dizzy spell' while I was riding my bicycle in heavy traffic and the sudden onset really freaked me out. I was nearly home and as soon as I got in I wrote down all my symptoms - feeling suddenly hungry, shakey, losing concentration and a weird taste in my mouth. I got something to eat straight away thinking along anaemia/diabetes lines but it made no difference and felt that way for an hour until the feeling went away completely.
Yesterday I went to see my GP again to say I felt it was getting more serious. She very diplomatically told me she'd like to refer me to a neurologist to see if I have mild petit mal epilepsy, and has asked me to get back to her to say if I'd like to go through with it. I am doing a little internet research while I make my decision and realised my general concentration may have been affected. I jokingly tell my friends I'm having a 'stupid day' when I can't get my brain to work properly, which is easily put down to tiredness or something similar, but now I think it may be connected too. I'm still uncertain whether my 'dizzy spells' could be like mild epileptic fits, but I suppose there's no other way to be sure than get the hospital tests done?
As far as I know, I have no family history of epilepsy or any head injuries that may have caused it. As I am nervous about springing such a loaded possibility on family, I would really appreciate any advice from someone out there with more insight or experience than me? Thank you!
sorry on my last note i also forgot to say that i am 22!
tanya
hello everyone, I really dont know where to start .......... well it all started around a year and a half ago, I collapsed lost and conciousness,this happened about once or twice a month i went to the dr's and they sent me for a ct scan results came back ok, so i carried on as normal thinking it would get better, it has not! 2 months ago i passed out in the kitchen and hitmy head bad on the worktop,eversince then i have been off work and things have got really bad, i have had a ecg test a mri scan and a eeg aswell i am still waiting for the resultsof the eeg. this last week has been unbareable, passing out at least 10-15 times a day, my husband and my brother have told me that i have been fitting, i urinate myself and i am also sick during these attacks,i have also hallucinated my husband an brother tell me that i will have one of these funny turns and wake up not knowing where i am who they are and freak out running away scared. the other day i was at home by myself we live in the top floor flats, i woke up at the bottom of the comunial stairs in my pjamas with no shoes on! I have not got the faintest idea how i got there! We have a dog and the only thing i can think of is that i woke up from one of these funny turns not knowing who the dog was or where i was and ran to get out of the flat! I dont go out by myself at the moment and when i do go out with my hubby i darent go into any public places, incase i have one of these funny turns, ( its just so embarrasing), I have not been made a follow up appointment and I am struggling to get my eeg results back from the hospital we have tryed everything i can think of i have called the hospital, many many times asking for my results and a follow up appointment, i have been to my local dr's surgery , we have had the paramedics out,last sunday my husband took me to a+ e hopeing i would get admitted but they said there is nothing they can do to help me as i have had all my tests done, my husband and brother cannot be with me 24 - 7 they have to work, i am off work at the moment and the only source of income is my husband, we cannot afford for him to be off work as well , i really am at a loose end, And i do not know what to do next, please can someone give me some advise???
( also thought it would be interesting to tell you that i have passed out twice whist writing this!) irronic!
I was diagnosed with epilepsy in 1973 - I am now 60.
It doesn't resemble ANYTHING I have ever read about.
When I was younger it took the form of full blown seizures preceded by long periods of 'absence'.
Since I passed menopause, I no longer have seizures but the absences persist. They can start at any time of day and last for the rest of that day. The only way to get rid of them is to go to bed and sleep them off. Its rather as if some one is fading my consciousness in and out. I remember odd occurance for brief periods of time then fade out again. I can speak but am unable to put together coherent sentences. I have no sense of time.
I have been treated on the NHS and privately by a succession of specialists who tell me they've never seen anything like it but who insist that it is definitely epilepsy. I have also been treated by a consultant who took me off medication and believed I had panic attacks - the attack increased from one every fourteen days to once or twice a week.
I currently take Lamictal which is very good but has not eradicated the problem.
In all the years I have had this, I have NEVER had a change of medication suggested by any consultant. Of late, thanks to the Internet, I have been able to keep abreast of advances and then got the sanction of the Consultant of the day. Frankly, its money for old rope.
I strongly believe that no matter what a patient tells the doctor there will always be a feeling of the doctor not believing what that patient says . I have had this happen to me alot recently and i know where people are coming from there is nothing worse when you go and see a doctor who you trust and you come out in tears .
No one will ever know what it is like to have epilepsy unless you do and i believe some doctors think they do , but again there are doctors out there we would be lost without ,
Hi Ali,
reading your story was a great help to me!
I have not been told I have Epilepsy as yet I'm waiting to see a Neurologist.
I have begun to have some kind of 'seizure' for want of a better word since I had a gereral anaesthetic for a minor op 5 weeks ago.
At first I thought I was having a stroke and it was very, very frightening, so much so that I called for an ambulance.
Tests at the hospital all came back normal and I was sent home.
After this I've had these seizures on and off ever since and been hospitalised three times.
Same result, test normal even a CT scan was normal.
I 'm now waiting to be seen by the Neurologist.
But I feel no one believes my seizures are real, except my family as they know me and know without a doubt that I am not making this up.
Who on earth would?
It's SO embarrassing to get taken by ambulance to the A&E dept. only to be sent home as nothing is seen to be wrong with you, it's hell!
I'm not having a panic attack, nor am I hypoclycemic.
Since that first episode things begin with a ‘spaced out’ feeling almost like a waking dream state.
Then I get a headache usually on one side, and then my body feels strange, I find it hard to hold my weight and I usually get on the floor for fear I may fall or faint, my balance is poor and this poor balance may last for several hours after the seizure is over.
Talking is hard as I feel as though I’m in slow motion I can't always say what I want, and my heart races.
Several times I’ve had visual effects like popping bright lights but the most frightening is if my left arm and hand goes numb or starts to twitch and has shooting pains, and my breathing goes strange, this is what I feel makes me think I’m suffering a stroke.
I always get the urge to go to the loo but I'm not sure if this is a symptom or my reaction to what's happening, perhaps fear.
Coming 'back' from it is gradual and a hour or more after I look back and it's as though it happened to someone else.
I've been crying most of the time since as I feel I'm going mad, I'm at my wits end.
I hope my discription may help anyone else, even though I haven't been diagnosed as an epileptic I think if I am I will be relieved.
I'm pleased you have finaly found an answer !
kind regards
Jane
My son had a seizure at home on Sunday morning and we immediately took him to A&E because this has never happened before. He had another seizure there and a final one 20 minutes later. He had act scan and an ecg which were both normal and are awaiting an eeg. When he had the last seizure he sensed it was coming as he had a pain in his leg on both seizures at A&E. We have not had a diagnosis yet and he is home now after being monitered for 2 days in hospital. I would appreciate any feedback.
Hi Cassie
I've just read your note about your bro having the epilepsy and you wishing you could take it away from him and you both being bullied at school because of it. I just want to let you know that I was also bullied at school. The bullying didn't relate to my epilepsy at first but one day a girl was wanting to have a fight with me and I had my first grand mal seizure after 10 yrs without any! So the epilepsy got me out of a fight that I didn't want to have anyway! Very useful! And I think she got a big fright! It did become a subject then for the bullies to use but my usual response to people who make comments about my brain not being normal due to my epilepsy is usually 'at least I've got a brain and had the tests to prove it whereas you haven't!' This usually puts a gobstopper in their mouths and they shut up because realise it's a valid statement!
Like you a am a younger sister and my big sis always looked out for me when I was at school like you do for your bro so keep up the good work and he'll always love you for it like I love my big sis.
Things have only kept improving since I left school even though the epilepsy got a bit worse but that doesn't bother me now I'm not with any bullies.
Rae
hi kelly
Like you i have a heathy active normal 2 year old girl about 2 weeks ago my husband and i were going to the store with our daughter . As we got out of the car i began to tap on the window opposite her car seat to play peek a boo with her but she did not respond to my tapping, so i banged harder and she did nothing just looked strait ahead just stareing like she wasnt even there. my husband took her out of her seat and we tried to talk to her but she just made a moaning sound, so i thought she was choking so i attempted to put my fingers in her mouth to see if there was something in there but her teethe were clentched so tight i couldnt open them. Then her pupils go really small and her eyes started to twitch and then her arms as well. Then her lips and around her mouth turned blue. we imediatly got in the car and rushed to the hospital. On the way there she continued to moan and turn more blue and then threw up and began talking funny, like repeating the same thing over and over. we got to the hospital and had to wait for almost 2 hours to see a doctor and she fell asleep for about 45 min after that she was perfectly normal. the doctor couldnt explain it but i feel she had a siezure. My mom met us at the hospital and as i told her what had happened she imediatly said that thats what happened to my younger brother when he would have a siezure (he was diagnosed with rolandic epilepsy about10 years ago he is now 19 and hasnt had any episodes for a few years).rolandic is a form of epilepsy that almost all kids grow out of. I took my daughter to my gp yesterday and he feels it was a siezure and is refering her to a pediatrition and sending her for an eeg and other tests. But my brother had his seizures while he was sleeping or over tired so when they did e e gs on him it would come back normal until they took one when he was very over tired. my doctor said this form of epilepsy is genetic but before my brother no one in our family has had it so its somewhat unexplained. I hope everything goes ok for your daughter as well as for my own i know how it feels to not have any control over what is happening and to feel lost and not be able to do anything for your child
hello, im glad i have found other people on this website who are are talking about epilepsy. perhaps some of you can help me, my partner has been epileptic since 10. In his childhood and teens would have attacks day and night, but in his adult life only at night. The thing is that he has two types of seizures in a episode. First the classic convulsing, foaming at the mouth, eyes rolled up, tensing, jerking etc but then he walks around! but hes not concious, hes unresponsive. He walks in circles, bangs in to things, one night he threw himself off the bed, he makes noises like groaning or humming, he contorts he face, its like one of those horrors where a robort goes mad. It really scares me. I havent slept properly in 2 years i have anxiety and have resented him for even its not his fault. I dont understand this second phase he has. Is it normal? im ashamed to say i have run away from him whilst hes walking around in this phase because i think hes going to hurt me. Please help. Gemmaxxx
My son had a serious RTA just over 3yrs ago, he goes in these trance like states, where he has no facial expression, doesn't respond when you talk to him,i thought it was just adolescence, but when he does respond its like you've just woken up, he's eyes remain open, he remains standing, could this be some form of epilepsy, he is awaiting a date for neuropschometric testing, as they aren't sure if he has frontal lobe damage due to his accident, have explained this to my GP and he's trying to push for an appointment for these tests asap,
Hi Cassie,
That must be really horrible for both you and your brother. But I'll say to both of you "Just hang in there". You'll end up leaving school and the people you're there with will, eventually, grow up and they won't tease you.
I've had severe epilepsy for 20 years, I'm now 26. I was bullied at school for being overweight but it was the drugs I was put on that made me gain weight. As soon as I came off them I went down 2-3 clothes sizes!! I was upset at the bullying sure, but you have to try to ignore it. I was quite popular, and had lots of great friends who understood what I was going through. Focus on your friends, not the bullies, they're jealous of you that's all.
As for your brother, he's just 19. I've moved out 3 times from the age of 21 and my epilepsy has got worse but I still left home. I went to Uni and lived in halls, then I lived with a long term boyfriend, and then another boyfriend! But I am just the same, I can't live alone either.
It's extremely frustrating, because you want your own space and to lead a normal life. My friend is a teacher and was grateful it was half-term recently, but I would give anything to work 5 days. But I'm just too ill.
Just try to keep smiling, both of you, and remember that it won't last forever.
Louise
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my name is cassie and my bro has epilepsy he hates it he cant move out coz he needs mum be with him all the time hes 19 hes out of school he wood be havin about 9-15 fits a mothe i get so upset 4 him he wants to live hes life like a 19 year old boy does he startr fitin at the age of 2 thats what i got told by our mum coz i was not boen the im 16 and i love my bro i want take it of him put it on me then he can live like a 19 yera old boy does but he likes hes life (thats what he tell us) my bro mark* gos in to a stare fit and every one tess him when he went to school and now they do the same to me coz hes my bro and i hate it when they call him name i get in to fights coz of it but i dont care i love him who he is not what he got or what ever
cassie xx
Hi,
This website is absolutely Amazing and has answered a lot of questions for me.
For the past 5 years, I've been having little "episodes", that are like zips of electricity and I can honestly say I feel amazing after wards, I seem to be the reversal of many other individuals. It starts off with an intense feeling of deja-vu which then leads to electricity flowing through my veins and intense heat starting from my head flowing down through my body. At the beginning, I get visions along with the deja-vu. Some of the them are incredibly real. But the main thing that baffled me was the immense feeling of happiness and joy! My brain seems to emit a happy drug that keeps me high for many hours after. It's almost like I see things for the first time, and everything is wonderful. Colours are brighter and everything is crystal clear, like watching a Blu-ray movie. I feel empowered and could take on the world. Very different to what I've read about epilepsy.
I visited my doctor, who was absolutely amazing, and she admitted to never hearing anything like this before, so she referred me to a neurologist. On my first meeting with him, he informed me I had epilepsy. He performed neurological tests on me, and booked me in for an MRI and EEG, but with no test results to back his diagnosis I was a little baffled by his boldness! He then continued to inform me that I was no longer allowed to drive and by law, he would be at liberty to release my notes to the police and DVLA if I was to have an accident. He also discussed putting me on medication. I sat there in compete shock! I couldn't believe what I was hearing. When I challenged him and questioned his prognosis, stating that the test results may come back normal, he still stated I had epilepsy. I have had the tests and I am now awaiting the results.
I have an appointment with my doctor in the next couple of days where I hope to file an official complaint against the neurologist. Reading the stories, where doctors don't take the patients seriously, it seems mine is far too eager to label and file away another patient into the vault...another good job done!
These people have to be challenged, for the greater good of us all. Good luck to everyone having to fight the archaic, dark ages of the NHS. You're not alone in this.
I have just found this website and have read through all the comments.
My situation is I am in my 30's now. Whilst I was growing up I frequently had episodes where I blacked out and started twitching. They were always put down to temp or tiredness etc. I would go through phases of having them, then not have any for months. Then maybe the odd one.
They have just started up again, I had one on the 11th of may I was at home on my own at the time. Then another one last thursday. My Partner was with me this time. He caught me as I went down and then lay me on the floor. He said the whole thing lasted a couple of minutes. The only common factor I can find between the 2 recent episodes is that they both occured during my period. Plus I had the headache from hell for a few days after each episode.and slept a lot after them too.
After the episode on the 11 may I went to my GP who ran blood tests which all came back clear. I was away on holiday when last weeks episode occurred. Since returning home I have managed to get a GP appointment for later this week. Just have to wait and see what happens now.
I think this site is great and it helpsto know I am not on my own.
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Like many of the other comments posted, we have had some difficulty in getting people to listen to us. My son is 4 and is also autistic, he has had every type of seizure including clusters of tonic clonic fits (5 in a row without gaining consciousness), drops to the ground, absences, tonic seizures and complex partial seizures, but we were told we were anxious parents who were overreacting by calling an ambulance. We have tried to get our son referred to a neurologist but keep getting told there is no need, and were also told there is no need for an EEG, but now they suddenly tell us there is a need for one. Our son is having several seizures a day and we still have not been told what type of epilepsy he has or if he has a certain syndrome. I wonder if any other parents are having the same problems or experiences and can give any advice. My son is also having episodes every evening when sleeping, his eyes roll up, he goes completely limp and cannot be woken. Is this a seizure? There are so many thing we do not know the answer to, we feel like we are living on a timebomb all the time, we never know when the next thing is going to happen. Thanks for reading this.
To Megan, it sounds like the doctors you have seen may think that you have psychogenic non-epileptic seizures, or Non-Epileptic Attack Disorder. It's basically where you have seizures that look like epilepsy, but there is not epileptic activity going on in your brain. If your doctors are sure about not doing any further medical investigations, the next step should be referral to a neuropsychologist to work out what's going on for you. It sounds like you've been treated pretty insensitively, unfortunately a lot of doctors don't know much about NEAD and think it is attention-seeking and they don't understand that you have no control over your seizures. If you do have NEAD, there is a good chance you could gain control and your seizures could stop without medication, but it's important to learn to understand your seizures, and a neuropsychology service is the best placed to help you do that. Also to be sacked from your job because of a medical condition is surely illegal? Especially since it has happened so quickly. You should be supported through occupational health etc. to stay in work. I would suggest getting legal advice about this.
I am 51 years old and had epilepsy between the age of 5 until I was 12 I was discharged from the hospital at 14yrs. Assuming the last few years I have been in the menopause I have had some very weird and odd feelings that remind me of how I used to feel in my childhood. I was aware that I was going to have a fit as a child as I would get a funny feeling come over me, and although these feelings that I get now are not the same, I feel there are some similarities. A few years ago I was prescribed medication for depression which I took for about 3yrs and since coming off this medication these feelings have come about. I have spoken to my GP on many occasions about this but I am constantly told its panic attacks or anxiety. I saw a neurologist privately and had MRI and CT scans and was advised all was ok but I wonder if this has anything to do with hormones and the menopause. Also unfortunately my son who is 25 is having fits and I cant help but feel I have passed this onto him. He is on Keppra and topiramate medication but unfortunately after being free of seizures for 16months has just had 2! He is obviously very depressed about this, he has lost his driving licence, unable to find work etc and its all so depressing!
My partner suffered at an early age with Petimal Seizures, she grew out of these.
She is now 28 and as i am in the Navy we have decided to take the family to Gibraltar
and as such the last few months have become very stressfull for her.
Unfortuanately I am not working at home so have been unable to stay with her 24/7.
lately she thinks that she may have been experiencing Petimal episodes, the latest been yesterday
when talking on the phone to her mother she temporarily lost the ability to speak and also
dropped the phone. This lasted for approximately 30 seconds.
Why do you think after all these years the seizures are coming back, and what
can we do to try and prevent the situation getting any worse.
many thanks
neil scarah
hi , i was wondering if any body could gie me advice , about two months aho i started having , sezures , or what many people are calling them , fits , spasms , they have ranged from one , to fourteen in a day , and at the beggining they were happening lots , sometimes they go away for a week and then come bck again - i get a very sore head , and my glands , neck feel swollen , i then feel dizzy or in another world , and my neck loses control , fall back , and my whole body convulses , and jerks , sometimes i lose control of water and i cry , but im not upset , also i stop breathing sometimes - after having these in hosptakl , the docs said i just had stress , and literaly threw me out of hospitalk , even whilst having one in teh waitin room , and having one whil leaving ! i was told i would get a neurology appointment in April , 3 months a way !
i went back to my city with my home/ job lost as i worked with kids and my employer fired me when she found out i had this ...i then had many in public , and a friend nearby called an emergency doctor who effered me to a neurologist in my city , howvere he treated me like i jsut wnated attanetion , and have me an egg scan ....it came back normal , despite having 7 fits while hooked up to the machine ...he siad he anticipated this result and no futher action would be taken , as he does not knwo what it is , or how it can be treated , and he think its will ...disappear ....at somepoint ! ive had my whole world tunred upside down by this , and i can honestly say i dont know what to do now , because i still have them , but no one will help me
I have just this week been told I have an unusual form of epilepsy after 40 years of growing up all my life telling my family ' Oh no I'm having one of those funny feelings again! ' No one new what I was talking about or understood, and believe it or not I thought I was all alone in the world! My Mother infact brought me up to think I was in touch with the spirit world! From as early as I can remember I would stop playing and be very still, my Mother would speak to me and I would not answer her for a few minutes and then would say ' I've had a funny feeling mummy ' My Mother took me to the doctor but 40 years ago the doctor did not know what it was. And that is where it stayed, I have grown up with these funny feelings all of my life, never thinking that I had any condition or even encouraged to see a doctor, I have just lived with it as being part of me untill by accident it has now come to light!
I had one of my funny feelings while driving to the doctors for just a repeat prescription 2 weeks ago, I always think now when I feel one arriving ' Oh here we go again... like a wave comming over me and bosh, im in a dream, in this dream type of feeling I see things, not physically but in my head, almost as if I am in a dream, my breathing becomes very heavy and my heart rate becomes very fast, this lasts for probably a few minuites and then I have learnt to my despair what follows is just horrible. I become very nauseous, my head feels like I have the biggest hang over and the bit I hate the most is the feeling of disorientation, nothing feels familar, I know where I am but I dont if that makes sence. This feeling can last up to 4 to 5 hours later I feel very ill and when they are very bad ones I have to go to bed and hope that when I wake up I feel normal again! Over my life I have never analysied them as to when or where, all I know is that they arrive any time, no warning, just arrive.
So when arriving at the doctors I am still feeling this way, my doctor asks am I alright to which I reply ' Oh don't worry I've just had one of these things I have ' my doctor then asks 'What things? ' so I reply ' Don't worry I have had them all my life ' 'Explain what these things are ' As I discribe what happens it accures to me that he knows what I'm talking about! Now at the time I'm feeling quite excited! For the first time in my life someone understands what I'm talking about!!!! I couldn't belive it !
I have been to see a consultant at the hospital this week, It has answered alot of questions for me in the respect that I have struggled with my memory, where as other people at school or at work have picked something up so quick, I have to ask over and over again even though it maybe the same thing I have been shown to do earlier on in the day, It takes me to repeat things over and over again before it will sink in! I have my children asking ' Do you remember when ? And I wont remember. Now I have been discribed medication I am hoping that this will improve! And do you know the best thing ever? Now I have been diognosed with epilepsy and am now on medication the thought that I may not have another one is like a dream to me!!! If you have a child who tells you anything that I have described, please please go to the doctor with them, Its very difficult to descibe when you are very young, so listen very carefully to how they are feeling. And now, as strange as it sounds after all these years its like I am saying good bye to an old friend!
This is my story and I would love to be able to talk to someone who is like me after all these years its like a revelation!!
ALI X
Hi kelly
Please please do not give up!!
Go with your gut instinct!! I fought with my son's neurologist for years and I was right!Please note that an eeg will only show up an abnormal reading if the patient has had a seizure within 48 hours. After 4 eeg's my son finally had an abnormal reading,i know that sounds terrible but when you know what's wrong with your child but do not have the medical evidence it is so frustrating!!This all took 4 years for the neurologist to finally diagnose epilepsy! Thankfully his epilepsy seems to be settling down, all the very best and do not give up!
Geri
Hi Kelly,
I am very sorry to here about the distress that you and your family are going through at the moment. My advice to you is hang on in there, try your best to get the tests done that you feel are necessary. I have previously written on this site about my son Jack who late last year suddenly had a bad seizure completly out of nowhere and then continued having the seizures with no explanation. It was only by chance that the doctor deceided to give him an mri and it was found that he had damage to his brain , which they are now saying could be a stroke that he may have had when he was just a few days old, he is now 11. When i think back over the past years i realise that jack was never quite right but there was nothing substantial that i could go to a doctor with. Please trust your mothers instinct, hopefully the doctors will be right and there won't be anything to worry about, but as i have said before sometimes your mothering instinct knows best and it's good to trust it more than anyone or anything else. Good luck, i hope you get some answers soon.
Hi can anyone out there help me?!
I have a 2 year old daughter who is a normal, active little girl. Since march last year she has had numerous ''episodes'' where her eyes flicker from side to side, she looses balance and tends to lean over to her left side. She does not loose conciousness, she becomes distressed and aggitated as she cannot coordinate her movements.
These ''episodes'' so far have lasted between 30 seconds to 5 minutes. She has had an eeg which was normal, and several assessments with the neurologist, who has admitted that he has no idea what it is. She has successfully reached all of her developmental milestones and has presented no other cause for concern.
However, yesterday morning 16/03/09, I was walking with my daughter to take my eldest to school. she started to pull on my left hand, i assumed she didn't want to walk so I picked her up. She wriggled so I put her down and the same thing happened. I few seconds later I noticed that she could n't maintain her balance, she was leaning over to her left side and her eyes were flickering from side to side, I immediately recognised the symptoms. It was very distressing and I immediately took her to the childrens hospital, where she promptly returned to her happy self.
We were seen by a neuro SHO who has referred us back to the professor of neurology. I was told to return home with my daughter and not to worry, ''things like this happen and are never explained''. I asked if my daughter would have an MRI, but was told that wasn't necessary at this time. This is episode number 6!
My daughter has an eeg booked for tomorrow, I feel like i'm going around in circles! I am petrified that something is seriously wrong with my little girl, and no one is prepared to investigate further than an eeg, which has already been done.
If there is anyone out there who has had a similar experience I would love to here from you. I don't know what to do next, other than scream from the roof tops and demand answers, which probably wouldn't help.
Thankyou for taking the time to read this.
Kelly. x